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Eliminating 12th Grade: Selling Students Short or Balancing Budgets?

Hey, juniors - it’s June, your school year is wrapping up.  How would you feel if your high school career was ending as well? Utah State Sen. Chris Buttars thinks he has a cure for senioritis – eliminating 12th grade from all high schools across the state. Senior year, he says, is good for “nothing but playing around.” The senator proposed this move before the state legislature earlier this spring. He says it will help close Utah’s $700 million shortage in budget money by saving about $102 million a year. “You're spending a whole lot of money for a whole bunch of kids who aren't getting anything out of that grade,” Buttars said. “It comes down to the best use of money.” When reaction to Buttars’ plan skewed negative, he offered a different version; rather than eliminating 12th grade altogether, make it optional for students who have completed a core number of credits. This would save the state about $60 million a year.
 
 

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08/17/2010
Tanner
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I believe that cutting senior year would be a great idea because many students drop out of school just because they lack the motivation to keep going. If the REQUIRED amount of years in high school is reduced, i think that more people would end up graduating and making a good life for themselves. It is hard to make a good life for yourself if you dont have a high school diploma. With more people graduating, there would be fewer low-income families, and people would be better off all around. Often called "senioritis," being bored of school as it drags on is very common. I feel it already and we just started the school year. I've been ready to be done with school since freshman year. With a shorter time in high school, this feeling would most definitely be less common and fewer people would give in.
 
 
08/17/2010
Kenna
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
This is something that should be a choice for the seniors. If they are willing to give it up then that is that one person's choice. Senior year should be an optional desision. Yes, I do think it would be a good idea money wise, but what about the education. It's wrong to give not give the students there choice. If a student has thier plans to not go to college then those credits for senior year shouldn't determine if the senior is to graduate.
 
 
08/17/2010
Justin
BCMHS, Vacaville
The proposition to make 12th grade optional would be a good solution. Students who are college bound would still be able to take higher level classes while students who want to go into a trade would be able to join a trade school or an apprentice program to get a jump start in their career field.
 
 
08/17/2010
Tyler
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville,CA
I believe making senior year optional would be the best thing to do becasue it would still save a lot of money and the people who want the further education would still get it. However, i agree more that we should cut Bus use more than eliminating an entire school year.
 
 
08/17/2010
luke
bcmhs, vacaville, ca
12th grade is a critical year for students. If you take that out than there will be young adults runnen around their city screaming for help and not knowing what to do with there lives. Senior year helps students take the final step to jump into there carreer and college.
 
 
08/17/2010
brian
buckingham, CA
Senior year does make a differnce to many people, but to some it means nothing. for myself it means nothing. I am still here because the state requires me to be here. For many people, they dont know what they want to do in life and this year helps them find out and head toward what they think they would like to do for the majority or rest of thier life. Although i do not believe elemination senior year would be a good cause, since for some it means something
 
 
08/17/2010
Nyckette
Buckingham Charter, Vacaville, Ca
I think that senior year should be optional. There are lots of students who want to stay in high school and take more classes because 1) they're free and 2) they look good on college resumes. However, there are also a lot of students who know that they're not going to college or that they're just jumping right into trade school or the military. Cutting senior year would really hurt alot of students so they should make it optional. There are plenty of students already graduating after 11th grade by getting their GED so they may as well make taking 12th grade classes an option. It would really help the states financial situations and it could give students a jump start into their careers. It's really beneficial for everyone.
 
 
08/17/2010
Lacey
BCMHS, Vacavile CA
I really disagree with cutting 12th grade. I think this year is about polishing everything you know and gaining more maturity before going into the real world. Here in U.S, everyone should be gettting the best education that's out there. And cutting the most important year would not make sense!
 
 
08/17/2010
Shawnee
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I believe that cutting senior year would be a terrible thing to do to students. By eliminating 12th grade, you are taking some of the students chances of going to college which would not allow them to get good jobs and be able to support their future families. Senior year is the year when many students learn life skill for their future lives. They take classes like Government and Economics which teach the students about elections, bills, voting, etc. There has to be another way to save money other then cutting senior year in high school. Senior year is a crutial year for students.
 
 
08/17/2010
Henry H.
BCMHS, Vacaville, California
I belivie Senior year should be the "wrapping paper" of your education. Its like a chirstmas gift: you filled the package with your credits and in the end you seal it up with beautiful golden papper and have it ready for your grandma college/employer)In short i think it should be kept as a college prep grade.
 
 
08/17/2010
Jen
BCMHS, Vacaville,Ca
I strongly disagree with cutting senior year. Cutting the last year of high school would not do the sutudents any good. Students would be graduating high school unprepared for college and the real world. They would also be graduating at a younger age. Also, instead of students "checking out" their senior year they would begin to "check out" junior year. Eventually junior year would become senior year and we'd be right back to where we started. Cutting senior year is not going to solve any problems.
 
 
08/17/2010
Sabrina C.
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville
I think that the idea of cutting 12th grade is ridiculous.I myself being a senior think this is the most important year in highschool. We have so much that we still need to learn this year that if they cut it out well be left without. By cutting out Senior year, your also cutting out classes that could very well get us into better colleges and get us on the right track to pursuing our dreams. If you think about it we as seniors still have growing up to do. So by cutting our last year of highschool your also sending us young ones out into the world with nothing but a highschool diploma. The smart thing to do, even though it means not saving alot of money would be to keep senior year and let us get the neccessary knowledge so that we can go out into the world after highschool and feel like we know whats going on and that we can become part of something instead of feeling like nothing. SO all in all its a bad idea to cut out our senior year, so i say keep it and let us go on with our last year of highschool
 
 
08/17/2010
Mikayla
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville, CA
I disagree with the idea that eliminating the 12th grade would be beneficial. It is too complicated of a plan, considering the fact that the requirements of senior year would need to be crammed into the 11th grade. Senior year is the most crucial because of how it prepares you for the trials of what you will be facing when you're on your own in society. It is a year when most students actually mature and are ready for their transition to move on. Some people say that 12th graders slack off the most, but I look around and see seniors fully occupied with the classes that they are taking and remain busy while they make sure they have all the requirements they need to go to the next level.
 
 
08/17/2010
Sabrina C.
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville
I think that the idea of cutting 12th grade is ridiculous.I myself being a senior think this is the most important year in highschool. We have so much that we still need to learn this year that if they cut it out well be left without. By cutting out Senior year, your also cutting out classes that could very well get us into better colleges and get us on the right track to pursuing our dreams. If you think about it we as seniors still have growing up to do. So by cutting our last year of highschool your also sending us young ones out into the world with nothing but a highschool diploma. The smart thing to do, even though it means not saving alot of money would be to keep senior year and let us get the neccessary knowledge so that we can go out into the world after highschool and feel like we know whats going on and that we can become part of something instead of feeling like nothing. SO all in all its a bad idea to cut out our senior year, so i say keep it and let us go on with our last year of highschool
 
 
08/17/2010
Safa
BCMHS, vacaville,ca
I don't think they should cut senior year but they should make the mandatory ammount of credits less. Because honestly senior year is just taking a bunch of electives and waiting for graduation. I personally only take english and history, and all my other classes are electives. I think they should make it so you do have a senior year, but you only take the required classes and can go home sooner. If they cut senior year that would definatly make things harder by trying to fit the 12th grade curriculum into the other three years of high school which would put alot of stress on us. I think just taking away all the down time school has would be a better idea and would still save states money.
 
 
08/17/2010
Nyckette
Buckingham Charter, Vacaville, Ca
Another thing I forgot to point out, its better to make senior year an option than cut out bus services or close schools or fire teachers. Some students can only come to school by bus because they don't have a ride to school. Closing schools is only a good option if there aren't many people in the state. Some states have so many kids that they need all schools open in order to minimize the number of students in a class so that they can focus on individual students and give students a better chance at learning the material. Raising taxes is also a stupid idea. We're already strapped for cash. Hardly anyone can make ends meet and the number of homeless people has increased. There are families on the street begging. We obviously don't have the money to pay more taxes either. So, make senior year optional. It's a win/win.
 
 
08/17/2010
Taylor
Buckingham Charter Magnent High School, Vacaville, CA
I think that senior year shouldn't be optional because having an extra year in high school could help you mature more otherwise we will have all these 16 year olds who graduated and not having the same education that others have had. If you have graduated high school already you want to move out the house and get a job and do what you want. Would they have to change the legal age to become an adult so people can get a place to live and take care of their selves? They probably would have to so that they can work and make their own living. Also the teens that are the ones that they start making the changes too, they wouldn't have all the classes that the others have had to look good on their college application they wouldn't get, so for a few years the colleges would have to change their standards. Senior year is a good experience to have and taking it away would be bad.
 
 
08/17/2010
Lauryn
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I don't see eliminating the 12th grade as a good idea. It might save money, but at a cost to the students education. 12th grade is the year for students to realize what they want to do after high school, apply for colleges, or get a start on their career choice. I don't think many juniors would be prepared or mature enough to start their own lives. Senior year is good for giving students a last chance to figure things out. Also, it gives students a chance to make up credits they are missing, and participate in sports that they may want to continue playing in college. I think cutting 12th grade would only help for so long. Eventually the same situation would rise again.
 
 
08/17/2010
Sarah
BCMHS, Vacaville, Ca
12th grade is not a waste because it is a time for many students to gain more skills needed in the college, or life after high school. Cutting that would just be a short term solution. In time people will realize that this would be a bad idea.
 
 
08/17/2010
Justin
BCMHS, Vacaville
The core classes should be required to be done by junior year. The only classes offered in the optional senior year should be higher level classes. Students also should not be able to make up credits during senior year.
 
 
08/17/2010
Sarah
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
This is kind of a contrary subject to talk about. I know how many seniors slack off but there is a large portion of our school whom take classes seriously. The school system would have to start early on with at least the 9th grades, if not with lower grades, to adjust them to the concept and responsibility of more work on their plates. I really enjoy the fourth year of high school right now that we have to enjoy, even though we still have required classes to take as well. Senior year gives us time to think more of our future ahead of us. But I know there are a lot of people who want to graduate early, so if our state considers this idea then I hope it'll be an option. :)
 
 
08/17/2010
Michael
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
Eliminating Senior year from highschool would do more collateral damage than good. Saving roughly $60-100 million would come at the cost of putting a fraction of teachers out of jobs nation wide, which alone makes the decision not worth it. The average senior graduates near the age of 18 (legal adult). Graduating after junior year would make the median age closer to 16-17, distorting post highschool responsibility as well as post highschool aspirations.
 
 
08/17/2010
Jacquie
BCMHS, Vacaville,CA
it would be nice. not everyone likes school. But there are downsides to this. preparation is ideal for teens to be ready to take on the world. 12th grade helps that alot. Learning about Politics and such helps reduce voter apathy. more 18 year olds decide to vote. Education is worth more than some people think.
 
 
08/17/2010
Taylor
Buckingham Charter Magnent High School, Vacaville, CA
I think that senior year shouldn't be optional because having an extra year in high school could help you mature more otherwise we will have all these 16 year olds who graduated and not having the same education that others have had. If you have graduated high school already you want to move out the house and get a job and do what you want. Would they have to change the legal age to become an adult so people can get a place to live and take care of their selves? They probably would have to so that they can work and make their own living. Also the teens that are the ones that they start making the changes too, they wouldn't have all the classes that the others have had to look good on their college application they wouldn't get, so for a few years the colleges would have to change their standards. Senior year is a good experience to have and taking it away would be bad.
 
 
08/17/2010
Michael
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
Eliminating Senior year from highschool would do more collateral damage than good. Saving roughly $60-100 million would come at the cost of putting a fraction of teachers out of jobs nation wide, which alone makes the decision not worth it. The average senior graduates near the age of 18 (legal adult). Graduating after junior year would make the median age closer to 16-17, distorting post highschool responsibility as well as post highschool aspirations.
 
 
08/17/2010
kammarii
buckingham , Vacaville,Ca
I strongly disagree with cutting senior year.During senior year students experience a tremendous amount of growth.Senior year allows students to practice responsiblity and prepare for the "real world". Eliminating senior year would only cause problems.Yes,it might save schools a little money ,but do we really want our future leaders to be shorted out of there education.
 
 
08/17/2010
Erin
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
Cutting Senior year wouldn't be a benefit to anyone. Senior year is a year that prepares students for post-high school life as well as college. Making 11th grade the last year of high school does not allow students to become mentally or properly academically prepared for further education and life after high school. Many students finish their junior year at only 16 years old still and making that their last year means you're sending them out into the world as a 16 year old KID. They are mere kids still, not nearly mentally ready or mature enough to be thrust into the adult world. Cutting Senior year would also mean changing the entire curriculum and possibly cutting extracurricular classes such as media, arts, music, and physical education classes. Students in high school would be much more stressed because of the increased work load and the stress of meeting college application deadlines on top of maintaining a social life. Although to educators and other adults a child's education is of the utmost importance, kids still need time to just be kids. We need the little time we have outside of school now to discover ourselves and to enjoy what are supposed to be the best years of our lives. Giving us an increased work load, longer school days and cutting extraccuricular classes takes that away from us. Law makers and educators need to think about the values and benefits of having a Senior year before they decide to cut our last year of high school.
 
 
08/17/2010
Lorna
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
Senior year is a very important year. It's a chance to get caught up on credits and gives time to decide what to do after high school. There definately are some people who do not care about school by senior year, but in the long run it's beneficial. Continuing education through Senior year gives more career opportunites and college opportunites. Without Senior year it forces high school students to grow up faster than they are ready to. Being in high school helps students learn more about themselves and eliminating Senior year will not give them that opportunity.
 
 
08/17/2010
Zak
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
in all honesty, I don't care if they eliminate 12th grade. I'm a senior and by the time the elimination took effect, I'll long gone out of high school and it would affect me even a little. By the time my kids are in high school, they will have had all this squared away too. I know that the government just looks for all the ways to save money, but 12th grade has its own effect on kids, its the last year opf highschool, and every kid looks foreward to being a senior in the 12th grade. if the 12th grade is eliminated, then every kid born in the last 2 decades will will be disapointed knowing they will never have that senior experience that they're older brothers and sisters said was so great, that they looked foreward too all these years.
 
 
08/12/2010
Hanna
BCMHS, Vacaville,CA
i agree that education should be the last thing cut to save money.
 
 
08/12/2010
Cid
BCMHs, CA
Noo i don't think so that totally wouldn't be fair.
 
 
08/12/2010
CiD
BCMHS, CALI
That does not sound like a bad idea
 
 
08/12/2010
Chris
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville, CA
Taking out 12th grade could rob students of the learning environment they need and a lot of skills that they are taught to prepare them for college, senior year being the year a lot of these ideas are introduced or re-emphasized. Though you could change that to 11th grade, but that involves changing almost the entire curriculum. Making the school week shorter and the days longer will only save money for so long. Eventually it will catch up and you'll be in the same deficit situation as before.
 
 
08/12/2010
Amanda
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville, CA
I don't believe cutting senior year would be beneficial. True it would save money, but we wouldn't get all the education and time we need. 12th grade isnt just for sports and extracurricular activities. It's a time for us to make up what we missed, think about our options post-high school, and gain experience before moving on in our lives. Of course all of the slackers will say we should cut 12th grade. It's only to be expected. If you are not ignorant you will agree that this is all in all a bad idea.
 
 
08/12/2010
Cassie
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville, California
I think that a 12th grade year is ver necessary for teenagers. They are at a point in their life where they need to decide what they want to do after high school and I believe that they need to spend all the time that they can becomming prepaired for what lies ahead in life for them
 
 
08/12/2010
Kiana
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School, Vacaville, California
Those who have already graduated high school always talk about their senior year. They'd have stories mostly about their senior year saying how exciting it was and crazy stuff/stunts they did. Aside from story telling, senior year is important. You can't just eliminate 12th grade and have 11th be the replacement. That's too much of a sudden abrupt change. What most students won't realize is that senior year is essential because it gives you more time to concentrate and be prepared for college and the real world. Most juniors may be prepared for the real world but with sudden change and not given enough time, some won't know exactly which turns to take and so forth. Being a senior is the year for you to realize who you are, what road you are going to take, and maturity/indepdence. Some may have already enough credits to graduate and senior year just may be a drag to them, but at least with that last year with less classes they may have it gives them time to figure out what they want to do with life. Whether you have enough credits or not, senior year is the time we need.
 
 
08/12/2010
Jordan
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I disagree with this idea. While I'm sure there are a select few students that would legitimately be able to quit school after junior year and be fine, the majority needs the extra year. Personally, I wouldn't have been able to be prepared to go to college at the end of last year. A lot of people do finish their required classes by the end of junior year. However, this doesn't mean that 12th grade isn't needed. I have taken most of the classes I need to graduate from high school, but even if I had finished all of them last year, I still think I would need this year to finish preparing myself. Many of the classes for a lot of students in their senior year may seem unnecessary. However, if nothing else, that extra year gives you time to decide what colleges you want to apply to, and what you want to major in.
 
 
08/12/2010
Hanna
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I believe that schools should keep the twelth grade. It gives students time to make future plans and college decisions. I don't think the majority of eleventh graders would be ready to graduate. Senior year is also important for students like myself who need to makeup credits. Not everyone has enough at the end of Juinior year. Getting rid of the twelth grade is a terrible idea even if it will save money.
 
 
08/12/2010
Jackson
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
Tweflth grade should at least be optional because I think students need that extra year that isn't very intense to focus on preparing for college and what they want to do with their life. The American education system is already limited enough and so far behind most other industrial countries. We don't need to hurt our students more. In other countries they might only have eleven grades, but each grade is so much more intense. They go to school for more hours, and sometimes even more days. We need to catch up to them, not take another step back by taking the last year away. But I guess it should be optional for those students who are ready to move on to college and not just want to get it over with. taking the easy way out doesn't get you anywhere.
 
 
08/12/2010
Angelica R
Buckingham Charter, Vacaville,CA
I personally dissagree with this idea strongly. I dont believe cutting a whole year out of highschool will do any good. I feel that Senior is a very important transitions year for us "highschoolers". This is our last year until we are adults and go off to college so if you cut that out just to save money we will be left with very little skills and no transistion for life after highschool. Also, whats going to happen next time when we get in a money crunch...cutt ANOTHER year off of highschool just to save money? Thats just dumb to me. I believe it is going to do more bad than good to our society. Eduaction is our foundation, if you start taking that away what will we become?
 
 
08/12/2010
Aaron
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I agree with the fact that it could be optional, because then the people that have completed al of their credits wouldnt have to come back another year for basically no reason. I can understand though if you would like to take high end classes for colleges to look at, but if you don't want to or need to then what is the point of coming another year? Not only would it benefit the student, but it will help the the financial issue. It could save millions which would be so helpful. Say if your going into the military/army, you wouldnt need to go into 12th grade it would be useful for the things you need to know and the things you would need to know how to do if you went one more year. If your going into a four year college then it would be a great idea to take another year of highschool so you have a better chance to get in.
 
 
08/12/2010
jonathan
buckingham , vacaville CA
you need senior year to figure out what you want to do. whethere you want to go to college or not you still need more time to figure yourself out. senior year gives you time also realize what you want to do with your life. Also what could they do as a compensation to everyone who already went through snior year. if they al of a sudden cut senior year (making it pointless) billions of people would have wasted nine months of their lives. they would have worked so hard to graduate when they could have used that time to start college or a career. cutting senior would more than likely end up causing more problems than its worth. i know if the state decides to cut 12th grade after i graduate i will be outraged and i will do something about it. there may be something new for the history books; Deeming vs. Board of Education.
 
 
08/12/2010
Aaron
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I agree with the fact that it could be optional, because then the people that have completed al of their credits wouldnt have to come back another year for basically no reason. I can understand though if you would like to take high end classes for colleges to look at, but if you don't want to or need to then what is the point of coming another year? Not only would it benefit the student, but it will help the the financial issue. It could save millions which would be so helpful. Say if your going into the military/army, you wouldnt need to go into 12th grade it would be useful for the things you need to know and the things you would need to know how to do if you went one more year. If your going into a four year college then it would be a great idea to take another year of highschool so you have a better chance to get in.
 
 
08/12/2010
Edith
Buckingham Charter, Vacaville, CA
I dissagree completly with eliminating the 12th grade. I don't think its balancing budgets, I just think it is ridiculous. I don't think it's smart and if states want to balance budgets they shouldn't do it with the education system. The 12th grade is a very important year and it gives students an extra year to get everything done before they enter the college life. You mature better & can take extra classes so you don't have to take those in College. Senior year is not a waste of time for all students, those who don't want to take advantage of senior year will just be missing out.
 
 
08/12/2010
Alisia P.
Buckingham, Vacaville, CA
I do not think it is the best idea to take out 12th grade. I think this because the 12th grade is an important part to the high school experience. It is nice to know that one would still have some extra time to decide what they want to do in the future before they have to take the big step into the "real world".
 
 
08/12/2010
lorenzo
buckingham, vacaville, california
i think the 12th grade year should be optional for people seeking to further their academic career. in my case this year is a waste, i could've started my career in the military if i didnt have to spend my senior year doing nothing. i think most people would still stay in school if the law was passed because it is useful to most people when trying to find colleges and acheiveing scholarships
 
 
08/12/2010
Si'mone
BCMHS , Vacaville,Ca
Getting rid of senior year is stupid. Its not jus used to slack off. Its to prepare for college, to get everything together before you make that next step in life, and also to reflect how far you've come throught the years in high school as well as grade and midddle school. If students choose to slack off then they'll face the concequencies and have to repeat senior year which will also teach them that they need to take better responsibility and take care of their priorities Senior year should not be eliminated.
 
 
08/12/2010
Kenzi
BCMHS, California
I believe that the senior year of high school should be optional, much like it already is. Students can already graduate early if the plan for it. The students that slack off, would do it junior year anyways and probably aren't planning on going to college anyways. On the other hand, the students who are going to college can take all the extra classes: AP, four year math, four year language, etc... Also, if students had a thirteenth, they would most likely be undecided and slack off until that year as well, so I really don't think it has to do with the number grade at all. I think it has more to do with kids wanting as much time as possible before they have to decided what they are going to do with the rest of their life and avoiding thinking about it for as long as possible. Most kids would probably take the extra year, especially because their parents would make them, so I'm not sure how much money it would save, but having senior year optional would be a good idea for some.
 
 
08/12/2010
AJ R
BCMHS, Vacaville, CA
I feel that 12th grade should not be alliminated from highschool for two strong reasons.Firstly i feel that as students we need that last year to mature and figure out what we want.If we were to jump from 11th grade straight into society then there would be alot of unsuccessful stu dents. 12th grade allows you that last year to really decide what you want for yourself. Secondly, i feel that 12th grade should not be alliminated because that is a horrible way to cut off money cost. Our education system as a whole is not very strong and students are not learning all that they could be learning so why would you take another year off? Some people argue that 12th grade is all fooling around but i highly disagree. it is that last year to learn as much as we can before we go out into society. If certain studens choose not to take advantage and mess around that is their problem. Other students should not be punished for that personl choice.
 
 
08/12/2010
Danielle
Buckingham, Vacaville Ca
I think the idea to get rid of the 12th grade is a dumb idea. The 12th grade isn't just a time to finish getting all the credits you need to graduate its also their to help you prepare for real world situations.
 
 
08/12/2010
Carrissa
Buckingham , Vacaville, California
I do not agree with this idea because i feel that kids in the eleventh grade are not at the same maturity level as kids in the 12th grade. One main reason being they are most likely younger than someone in the 12th grade therefore they are less experienced and are not ready to take such a big jump as going straight to post high school plans after only three years on high school. The fourth year of high school i see as being a step into maturing and growing as a person, and really starting to get to know ones self better. so all in all the 12th grade should be manditory as it is now.
 
 
08/12/2010
Saschia
Buckingham Charter, Vacaville, CA
I understand how some people see senior year as a joke. There are far too many seniors who don't take school seriously and just slack off. However, it is wrong to eliminate an entire grade of highschool due to some people who don't take their life seriously. There are plenty of seniors with packed schedules and strenuous classes that are preparing themselves for colleges. They need 4 years of english and so on. Those who desire to get into specific colleges need a certain amount of credits that would be extremely difficult to pack into only three years. Another angle to look at this is that we should be encouraging our students to take more responsibility over their lives and take advantage of their opportunities. I see this action as basically saying to the slackers, "hey, you don't really care and you're not gonna try? Ok, then you don't really have to go to school anymore." In all actuality, that is how it would seem to so many of the seniors who don't care. School is an opportunity and a privilege and it should be taken seriously. It is not something to be eliminated in order to save money. That is absurd.
 
 
08/12/2010
john
BCMHS, Vacaville, Ca
I believe that the senior year should be a choice for the student. There are many reasons why i say this and one of them being that many of these students haven't yet thught out what they are going to do after high school and need the extra time in school to help them focus thier attention on it and their future plans. Also there many students who have completed all their credits and have al their plans set as to where they're going to college and what they want to major in or even to get training in a specific career field that they have an interest in doing. all in all i feel that an optional program for seniors would be cool
 
 
08/12/2010
tamara
Buckingham Chater Magnet High School, Vacaville
if senior year was eliminated, then junior year would just take its place, which doesnt really change anything. but having it be optional would be practical and convienent. students who dont know exactly what to do could have some more time to figure it out. also for those who still need credits, its nice to be able to spread things out over four years instead of three. it definitely sounds like a good idea for saving money. but schools shouldnt be put up first in line. there are prisoons that have tvs in every cell, so things like taking band and all that isnt really necessary. but having sr yr be optional is one of the things that could be done with schools so the government can save more money.
 
 
08/12/2010
David
Buckingham Charter , Vacaville CA
I believe that eliminating the 12th grade would be devastating. High School is a maturing processes and cutting that process short would affect the nation in a negative way. Trying to jam pack four years into three would be too difficult for me personally, and as a 12th grader I am not doing "nothing but playing around" - as Utah State Sen. Chris Buttars claims all 12th graders do. I am taking advantage of this year and looking for colleges and building up my résumé for that.
 
 
08/12/2010
Brenda
Buckingham Charter Magnet High School , Vacaville, CA
I truly believe that they should not eliminate 12th grade. The reason why is because you are given more time to think about what you want to do in your life and you are given more time to mature.If 12th grade was eliminated then we would have some wild teenagers heading off to college not knowing what they are going to do with their lives.
 
 
08/12/2010
Remy
BCMHS, California
I think the idea of eliminating the last year of high school is ridiculous. I strongly disagree with Buttars' statement in which he says that one's senior year is "nothing but playing around"; I have a full schedule, packed with classes I am recommended/required to take in order to apply to a four-year college. Serior year is sacred as it prepares students for college to the full extent. Students need this year to reflect on their high school career and goals of their future. A majority of Juniors are sixteen and do not have the mentality required to make the big step towards the real world.
 
 
08/12/2010
Cindy
BCMHS, California
I strongly belive that it is not necessary to eliminate 12th grade because it is the last year of high school and it gives us young students the time to think of what we want to become in life or the goals we want to persue. Many belive that 12th grade is the year to act a fool but it really isn't, 12th grade is the time to think deeply about our futures. I also belive that it is not fair becasue many people went to school for all 12 years and had to suffer that one last year and cutting that last year of school for the kids that are presently attending high school would really benifit them because it would mean one less year of school. WE(they) need to suffer just a little like we did.
 
 
08/12/2010
Sierrah
Buckingham Charter Magnet HS, Vacaville, California
My feelings are this topic are mixed. I was thinking that senior year should be optional.Some students take challenging classes while others take required classes or classes that are not so difficult. I feel senior year is somewhat optional already in that aspect. I guess if senior year was optional, money would be available and it may be better for students. Students can choose what they want to do. This idea would be especially suitable for those who are only taking senior year for the required courses to graduate. Those have their career goals planned out can proceed to do so without wasting their time in high school. Those who want to take different curses, join sports, or have more time to make decisions about their future will be able to do that. An optional senior year will make more options available to students.
 
 
07/27/2010
james
smithtown hs east, smithtown
i agree because im not going to learn any thing in 12th grade any way i have enoff credits at the end of 11th to graduate so why keep me anothr year
 
 
07/27/2010
nicole
smithtown west, smithtown,ny
i think that 12th grade should be optional because some 11th graders have all the credits they need to graduate so whats the point of going to school a whole extra year when they can get started with there career.
 
 
07/27/2010
moses
john glenn high school, huntington/NY
i disagree with this idea because your senior year is when you have prom and for all the kids who play sports and are getting scholar ships there senior year is there last year to look for schools
 
 
07/27/2010
duncan
northport, ny
your not getting any education in 12th grade its just for fooling around.
 
 
07/27/2010
jesse
northport high school, east northport new york
i agree with this idea because 12th grade i didnt do much of any thing, i had four classes and they were a a joke. there is not realy a point to 12th grade and it would save alot of money
 
 
07/27/2010
nicole
smithtown west, smithtown,ny
i think that 12th grade should be optional because some 11th graders have all the credits they need to graduate so whats the point of going to school a whole extra year when they can get started with there career.
 
 
07/27/2010
jesse
northport high school, east northport new york
i agree with this idea because 12th grade i didnt do much of any thing, i had four classes and they were a a joke. there is not realy a point to 12th grade and it would save alot of money
 
 
07/27/2010
quan
harborfields high, huntington, NY
honestly i believe i dont care to much about because im not a senior anymore but it dosent sound like a bad idea because it is a really good way to save money and maybe use that money to do the right thing because our country is still in debt, also senior is just a year when many students dont take school as serious as the last three years. since 11th grade is the most important year it would be preety wise to end school at that year.
 
 
07/27/2010
daddy
adams , queens new york
i think they should take 12 grade out we need more money we poor out hereand yah makin me lose money
 
 
07/27/2010
antonio
smithtown west, new york
Education should be the last thing cut to save money. Whether it's a main class or an elective, it's all part of the learning experience. Secondly, ask most 11th graders what they want to be or where they want to go, most of them will tell you the same thing.. im not sure yet. 12th grade matures and gives students time to think and plan what they want to do, while at the same time earn enough credits to finish school.
 
 
06/12/2010
Rachel
ENMS, East Northport, NY
This isn't going to work. This idea will make 11th grade the new 12th grade. And then what? They'll try to get rid of that, too, on the same grounds--that we won't get anything out of it. Also, places like my school, I need 4 English and Math credits, so I'll take them for 4 years. If they tried that plan in New York, it wouldn't save them any money; we'd all need to take the fourth year. :-/
 
 

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